Arts & Culture

In Defense of David Cross

The comedian tells 'The Observer' why he obsessively trolls the comment sections on his BlackBerry, just to watch himself get trashed by 'fans,' and why he can't resist the urge to write back

This is not Ollie Red-Socks.
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This is not Ollie Red-Socks.

David Cross has no wife and no kids. The comedian and actor, best known for his role as Tobias Fünke on the little watched, but much lamented FOX sitcom Arrested Development and as co-creator (with Bob Odenkirk) of Mr. Show with Bob and David, an HBO sketch series that ran for four seasons back in the Clinton Era, has a dog. Her name is Ollie Red Socks.

Ollie, like a lot of dogs that live in the city (she resides with her master in a modest but comfortable apartment full of tennis balls and squeak toys in the East Village), sometimes likes to get out for a little fresh air, run around in the country, maybe dip her paws in a fresh-water stream.

For that reason, and because her human companion likes to get away sometimes, too, Mr. Cross recently bought himself and Ollie a small cottage in Sullivan County. To make this purchase—and because everything else in the world from squeak toys to HDTVs requires money, lots and lots of money—Mr. Cross took a minor role in Alvin and the Chipmunks, a film you probably didn't see unless you play with Webkinz after school and still occasionally have accidents in your OshKosh B'goshes.

A few weeks’ work on a kiddy flick in exchange for the down payment on a house with a stream seemed logical enough to the 43-year-old Mr. Cross, but to a certain Internet-empowered subset of his fans, this was nothing short of a betrayal.

You could be forgiven for not knowing about this during a news cycle that included the assassination of Benazir Bhutto, the Obama victory in Iowa, the continued war in Iraq, and the emotional collapse of Britney Spears, but to the sort of pop culture obsessives who spent their high-school years memorizing the 'Dead Parrot' routine from Monty Python's Flying Circus, own the Donnie Darko director's-cut DVD, and whose female ideal (since the Cross agonistes seem to be exclusively straight males) runs towards, say, Natalie Portman and the Asian girl in Rushmore, Mr. Cross has done something entirely unforgivable. Think: Dylan going electric, plus Nirvana's "Breed" in a commercial for XBoX's Major League Baseball 2K7, times a thousand. For his Alvin role as Ian, the Chipmunks' agent, plus other recent career choices like a one-off role on Law & Order: Criminal Intent, Mr. Cross has been pilloried by commenters on The Onion AV Club's blog, where they called him a hypocrite, a "smug, condescending asshole," and "a huge prick." (Some of those observations came from commenters who professed to like him.)

After reading things like, "Cross is creating his own style comedy: Double-Standard Standup," as well as a mocking MySpace post by his friend (and onetime Mr. Show guest star) Patton Oswalt, Mr. Cross decided to respond to his critics with an open letter on his Web site, bobanddavid.com. In the searching post, which begins "Enuff Znuff" and is signed "Yours until the next piece of shit I'm in," Mr. Cross clarifies—perhaps a little too defensively—that his decision to appear opposite those adorable CGI chipmunks was born out of needing (and enjoying) work and being unable to buy his country place with his "artistic integrity."

The tone of the post—"I have no regrets at all" he says about his various endeavors—calls to mind Richard Nixon's famous "Checkers" speech with Ollie (or maybe the cottage? or was it Alvin?—it gets confusing) in the role of the irresistible inducement against his integrity.

Speaking directly to one’s critics might not be the best idea for any celebrity—especially one with a cultish online following—but, as he wrote in his open letter, Mr. Cross "wasn't prepared for the level, or amount I should say, of vitriol that's been flung about like so much monkey poo."

He offered four and half "mitigating factors" for his role and assumed he'd settled the Chipmunks contretemps once and for all.

He was wrong. Displaying the sort of reasoned commentary one has come to expect from unmoderated blog comments, a reader of Defamer called the letter "the shittiest fucking defense since the Nuremberg trials." A commenter on a follow up Onion AV Club post wrote in, "He's digging his own grave, professionally." On Stereogum, one reader simply stated that he or she "wouldn't mind if he dies."

Alllviiiiiin!!

Speaking with the Observer a week after he posted his open letter and dozens of blogs and message boards answered with an outpouring of hostility, Mr. Cross seemed, well, cross. He also seemed genuinely hurt by the criticism he was being subjected to online.

"There's no small part of people wanting to call you on your shit. And I think some of it’s deserved on my part, but I also think a lot of it isn't. I think a lot of it is lazy and not really thoughtful, " he said, sitting on a leather sofa beneath a painting of Ronald and Nancy Reagan with Michael Jackson in his apartment.

"Look, do I really think that Lobsterboy103 thinks that I'm 'evil'? Of course not ... But it's just the Internet, you know. It's tippity-tappity-tippity-tap ... [here he mimics simian typing] ... Done. Hit send."

Mr. Cross thinks that much of the criticism—particularly anonymous recollections of unfriendly encounters with him at bars or events—has created an false impression of who he is.

"I've gotten 'bitter' a lot. I don't think that's applicable," he said. "People genuinely don't like me. They find me arrogant and abrasive." Next Page >

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auntie (not verified) says:

As soon as I'm perfect, I'll start telling David Cross how to live his life.

stephen (not verified) says:

david, aside from your attack last year on mormons, i love everything you do, even if it is alvin and the chipmunks...

matt (not verified) says:

david, how dare you make money doing your job! jk lol roflmao brb.

ty (not verified) says:

for his work on arrested development, david cross should be granted a lifetime of immunity for any crappy movie he chooses to take part in. if that means alvin & the chipmunks 2, 3, & 4, I could care less. his critics/"fans" should focus less on dissecting david cross's career choices and more on the dungeon & dragon's party they mostly certainly plan on attending tonight.

Chris (not verified) says:

David, do every kids movie you can, even the crappy ones! Why, you ask? Your presence will stick with these kids and then when they're slightly older but still impressionable they'll come across your HBO special or see your DVD and say, "Hey that guy from the chipmunks," and watch it and maybe, just maybe one or two of them (probably more) will laugh. That's how I discovered George Carlin, and unfortunately Bob Saget. Make more CDs! Please?

Patrick (not verified) says:

David--Mr. Show is a bright and shining star from a dark comedy era. Tobias put the Blue Man Group on the map. I have not seen Alvin, but now I will watch it with my children and tell them, "Look there's Ronnie Dobbs!"

Sue in nyc (not verified) says:

Hmmm, I saw the movie with my 3 boys. I was an Arrested Development fan so, while I was initially surprised to see David Cross in one of these packaged, holiday product movies, I was also kind of intrigued to see if this guy had really "sold out." I mean, this is the kind of movie that he would beat on in his act. But I think he pulled it off. No question about it, his being in it made it much (okay, slightly) more interesting for an adult to tolerate the movie. It's like they threw us a bone, putting a hardcore cynic like him in there. It didn't hurt that his character was a cynic also.

Gierbo (not verified) says:

his critics seem to be people with nothing to do, people who seemingly have never had real responsibilities. What a crock. I would not even defend myself. A mistake. Little people with little ideas.

Alex P (not verified) says:

When Garofalo does “Truth About Cats and Dogs” or “Ratatouille” she’s called bold and demo-savvy. When David Cross does “Chipmunks” he’s called a prick and a sell-out. Here we call THAT discrimination. Come to Toronto, David, where all unicorns are equal and elfs give birth to rainbows.

Dan (not verified) says:

Three months into a new job, I was asked to jump into a dumpster to retrieve blueprints the cleaning crew tossed the night before.

I lacked any kind of health insurance, and for something south of $10 an hour I was asked to jump into dirty metal box whose sole purpose is the housing of evil.

To wash away that experience, I'm sure that night I cracked three Sam Adams, watched "Mr. Show", laughed my tits off, and then passed out on the couch.

David, don't let those jerks get you down. We're all whores, and at the end of the day, 99% of us sit on a couch and hope someone like you can make us laugh..

Tom (not verified) says:

He's entirely right. Sure, it was a surprise to see him in some of the reviews I saw for the Chipmunks movie, but this is how non-mainstream actors do their thing. The term "sell out" is a sell-out. It doesn't mean anything anymore. It used to mean someone who would ruthlessly do anything for money without regard for what it really meant, regardless of how much they already had. Cross, like many artists of varying sorts, does what he needs to do to get by, just like plenty of us regular people. He does stuff like this so he can continue doing the stuff his fans actually like. (Think about that the next time you make fun of all those "one-hit wonders," etc. - more often than not, that one hit is what enabled them to continue being musical artists rather than simply entertainers, and that's all they really want.)

Ed (not verified) says:

A whole lotta nothin, plus another whole lotta nothin = a whole big stinkin pile of nothin.

Pass.

hustlebot (not verified) says:

if more people supported "artsy" or "independent" "flicks" that are "above" these "cookie-cutter" hollywood "movies," then maybe "david cross" could continue making a "living" by working in "projects" that leave his "integrity" intact. in the "meantime," i have no "problem" with anyone doing a job to make "money" to live.

i don't "like" my "job" but it pays my "bills" too.

Jeff (not verified) says:

As long as this nonsense keeps Dave writing his hilarious blog posts, keep it coming.

Dave also gets a lifetime pass for his work in Superchunk's "Watery Hands" video.

Jay Smith (not verified) says:

Hey David, I would like to request you re-add all the cigar corner blogs on bobanddavid.com, as my life is empty, and if I can' read those for some sunshine, I might do something rash, like go see Alvin and the Chipmunks, and noone would benifit from that (except maybe you, did you get backend points?)

McGee (not verified) says:

My initial reaction to David Cross appearing in Alvin and the Chipmunks was, of course, "so what?" But I identify Cross with his brilliant stand-up (which, in my opinion, equals Hicks' for pure smart funny) moreso than his role on Arrested Development , and his routine is based on ripping hypocrisy, sell-outs, and pre-packaged schlock (squagels, anyone?) to shreds. Given that, there is a bit of... no, wait, I still don't care at all. I don't need David Cross to wear some hair shirt representing his comic purity in order for me to enjoy his talent (wanting to enjoy his talent precluded me from going to see an obviously stupid movie with talking CGI chipmunks in which he happened to appear - no skin off my ass there).

Ben S. (not verified) says:

Come back down to Atlanta for a tour date, David. We'll show you some love. And f*ck Lobsterboy1069 and the rest of those punks. In fact, you, me and Kevin Smith should get together, ping their IP addresses and give those 14 year old emo wannabe hipster, Rage-Against-the-Machine-As-Long-As-Its-Not-The-Xbox-My-Mom-Bought-Me a richly deserved beat down.

Get over yourselves, you a-holes.

chirpXL (not verified) says:

David, I still think you are neato like a delicious burrito.

Trashley (not verified) says:

Those internet kids today have lost their sense of scale. It's not as if there was theft any other kind of actual ethical violation going on. I mean, I guess it would have been pretty hardcore to squat in that house but, you know, fuck that.

Bob Ironic (not verified) says:

I'm sure Mr. Cross is a very nice and civil guy, in a hands-off fashion, but I suspect that he doesn't much enjoy anything outside the David bubble. It follows. The Comics of the School of Ironic Detachment seem to feel that they're too sensitive to be understood, that the near-planet-full of people that don't laugh at their jokes simply doesn't understand their jokes. I wonder if anybody ever told that to Mitch Hedberg, who was funnier in one single set than Mr. Cross hopes to be in his entire, self-acknowledged miserable life.

I'm attempting to be too cute, and I apologize. But it boils down to this: One who is sensitive to criticism by Patton Oswalt ought to rethink one's career.

Melodybe (not verified) says:

Hey David, as the child of hippie parents growing up in MS, you've always been a favorite of mine. Screw the haters, plenty of your fans still love you. You are worrying way too much. Thanks for all of the laughs. Seriously man, thanks. As someone who saw the world turned upside down after 9/11, people like you and Jon Stewart, were instrumental in reminding me that there is reason and logic and humor out there. It was a dark time and you helped this southern girl through it.

Lots of love, and "F*ck all y'all" haters.
Melodybe

PS I want that hat.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

I love to think that when said kids watch David's older work that they will be shocked and irreparably scarred for life...in a good way! eg. "getting the shaft again", "i want people to perform bestialities for me", Byron de la Beckwith, Titanica's biggest fan etc etc. Awesomeness!

I don't love it when my fave comedians do shitty movies but then my fave actors have done tons so who cares. I don't think there was such an uproar over DeNiro in Meet the Fockers. What would possibly "justify" this outrage is if David did a movie alongside Larry the Cable Guy. Even so, who gives a sh*t? These people are entertainers, don't tell me we'll hold them to higher standards than the US government..actually strike that, maybe we could.

In case you never heard the expression: arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics:even if you "win", you're retarded.

PS. Loved Patton's reply on bobanddavid.com I think you all need a dip in the Bill Hicks shaped pool! genius!

Duane (not verified) says:

Sell-outs are people like Donald Sutherland and The Who and Michael Jackson using the Beatles songbook to sell crap from Target. These are people who have reputation enough to still get work, if they need the money at all.

Artists like David Cross (and as a perfect example, Kathy Griffin)need to work to make a living. And who wouldn't want to improve their living conditions?

Selling out? Give me a break. I'd be happy to buy in!

Erik (not verified) says:

I find myself continuously re-listening to David's two comedy albums because I enjoy his unique point of view. The best way for him to shut these no-life, basement-dwellers up is to bring the goods. MAKE ANOTHER ALBUM. In fact, David (if you're listening) if you want me to help you pay for the merry-go-round next to your stream- I will. Offer one set a month for download for a year, and I will buy all of them, and I'm sure I would not be the only one. That's $120! I know that's not a ton of money, but it could buy the paint for your paddle wheel, or whatever you need next.

mothy (not verified) says:

F m n the b, david.

Peter Cook (not verified) says:

You can't blame a man for making a living. I love his work. But I guess when you live by the sword, there's a chance that you die by the sword.

Peter Cook
(One of the dumb-fuck-Midwestern-flyover country-toothless-non-educated-racist-idiots from Kansas City that David Cross has made a living skewering)

Chris in NYC (not verified) says:

David rules. I am glad someone this talented is now popular. He won out, he now gets paid for being one of the more funny comics around today. Its the way the world should work. Its funny how he was on SubPop, and then sold out like all of the great musical acts from my youth. I would much rather see David in blockbuster films instead of someone like David Wain or Michael Showalter, those guys suck.

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