Paterson: Clinton Showing Some 'Desperation'
One of Hillary Clinton's most prominent supporters, David Paterson, isn't withdrawing his support, but said there's some "desperation" on her part to claim a lead over Barack Obama in the popular vote.
Speaking on Northeast Public Radio this afternoon, Paterson said:
"Right now, Senator Clinton is saying that she has the popular vote and this should be determined by the popular vote. But that presumes that of the 450,000 votes that Barack Obama has, that you deduct 300,000 for what was her plurality in Florida, and then you deduct 200,000, which is Hillary's vote in Michigan, not even counting the undecided vote. So in other words, you have to give Senator Clinton all of the votes in Michigan, like 200,000 to zero, plus 300,000, which is her plurality in Florida. And that is how she comes to the conclusion that she is the leader in the popular vote. So, I would say that at this point, we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I will support until whatever time she makes a different determination."
The audio is here (Paterson makes those comments at about the 13:00 mark).
Liz's take is here.
- Poll
- Obama (D)
- McCain(R)
- Spread
- RCP Average
- 49.8
- 43.6
- Obama +6.2
- Candidate
- Favorable
- Unfavorable
- Spread
- Obama
- 54.9
- 36.1
- +18.8
- McCain
- 50.7
- 39.6
- +11.1
Fascinating conversation with a DNC insider on the Florida/Michigan delegate question. Paterson's bottom line: forget the candidates and "think about the process." He points out that all candidates agreed to not seat the Florida and Michigan delegates -- "nobody was screaming" -- when the decision was voted on in December.
Our new gov is a very interesting -- and accessible -- guy.
Bravo to Gov Paterson. I believe the good people of Indiana, Pennsylvania, Kentucky and West Virginia will embrace Obama as they begin to know him better. I think he chose not to fight that fight until he is nominated.
I believe he will go to those states and unveil his vision of how he will address the issues that are most critical to their local economy and the middle class working position.
Senator Obama came up from a working class family and was raised by a single mother and then his grand parents, so he is sensitive to the needs of the working class. He showed respect for Senator Clinton during the primary campaign as he knew she was well-known and people were more familiar with the Clinton's to deal with this issue at that time.
I believe he will be going their way in a very big way. I really feel sorry for Senator Clinton she is looking like a witch that lost her broom and is stuck in the reality that she has lost her magic to Obama. I was once a Clinton supporter, but I have a very poor attitude towards this process she is holding on to. She caused me to switch to Obama with her negative campaign.
This campaign isn't about what color you are who your pastor was it's about our failing economy and CHANGING the way we do business in Washington. Obama will address those issues and face them head-on, and work for every household in America.
Vote OBAMA 2008. It's time for democrats to UNITE and take the White House back.
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Paterson: Clinton Showing Some 'Desperation'
by Azi Paybarah | May 22, 2008 |
Getty ImagesOne of Hillary Clinton's most prominent supporters, David Paterson, isn't withdrawing his support, but said there's some "desperation" on her part to claim a lead over Barack Obama in the popular vote.
Speaking on Northeast Public Radio this afternoon, Paterson said:
"Right now, Senator Clinton is saying that she has the popular vote and this should be determined by the popular vote. But that presumes that of the 450,000 votes that Barack Obama has, that you deduct 300,000 for what was her plurality in Florida, and then you deduct 200,000, which is Hillary's vote in Michigan, not even counting the undecided vote. So in other words, you have to give Senator Clinton all of the votes in Michigan, like 200,000 to zero, plus 300,000, which is her plurality in Florida. And that is how she comes to the conclusion that she is the leader in the popular vote. So, I would say that at this point, we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support ....
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BILLARY Clinton has been DESPERATE since the Iowas Caucuses, so I wonder why the Governor is now seeing that!
Contrary to swindon (not verified), Gov. Paterson is not saying "forget the candidate and think about the process." Paterson is asserting a basic American principle: We are a nation of laws, not men or women. In this instance, the law is the rule the DNC adopted, with the agreement of all the candidates,including Clinton, that any state that violated the primary schedule would forefit its delegates.
If I remember correctly, all of the candidates, except Mrs. Clinton, withdrew their names from the Michigan primary. When questioned at the time, Mrs. Clinton said it would not matter that her name remained on the ballot because everyone knew "it would not count." Another trick from someone with an impaired relationship with the truth.
Jose Alfaro
Maywood, New Jersey
Weird how the Hillary supporters are just ignoring this article, or any other facts that place Obama as the nominee... And how they manage to spill out theories of why she's losing and how the votes should be counted... And also just ignore the very non-subtle attacks from her.
OBAMA 2008!
Why the hell is Paterson opening his mouth? The guy's been in office for five minutes and has already been the subject of several embarrassing scandals. The man's a disgrace.
The Obama Democrats need to be taught a lesson in November: working and middle-class Democrats will not stand by and allow the party to be co-opted by the quixotic causes of the Harvard-Hollywood set.
Obama is the quintessential liberal vanity candidate who
neither knows nor cares about the problems of the average American. He's in place to champion the causes of the Manhattan-Los Angeles charity circuit by pandering to racist blacks, illegal immigrants, Guantanamo inmates, gay activists, enviornuts, starving Africans, Islamists, etc. Do you think that Obama gives a damn about job retention? About a SOCIOECONOMIC affirmative action to help disadvantaged whites? About revitalizing the industrial infrastructure of the country? About punishing corporations for outsourcing jobs?
Fuck, no!
One need only look at his base to understand that most Americans will be flushed down the toilet by any Obama administration. Sure, if you're a 20-year-old rich kid at Dartmouth; a 52-year-old bleeding-heart Jew who teaches Shakespeare at NYU; or a racist black who thinks that Al Sharpton is a pillar of the community, then you will LOVE the Obama administration.
But if you're a working- or middle-class white person who's been shit on by illegal immigrants, race-based affirmative action, and other liberal vanity causes, prepare to bend over and hold your ankles in silence lest the race-baiting blacks and liberal media elites call you a "racist" for acknowledging reality.
To McCain Democrat,
Have you ever read a research based poly-science or sociology book in your life? At least look at the socio-economic histories of the candidates you've been fooled into supporting or opposing. In doing so, how can you possibly link Obama to elitism and not HRC?
Ironic, you probably got mad at Obama's comments regarding the working class and misplaced social anger, when you should have analyzed it objectively.
Check the expletives within your post. See any irony?
Interesting that Paterson basically says that Clinton's rationale for staying in the race (she's "ahead in the popular vote") is b.s. Yet he still supports her.
Is it that he really supports her in his heart? Or is it that no one in New York politics dares cross the junior senator and her husband?