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Defiant Clinton Women Refuse To Support Obama

High-Class Hillraisers Still Irate About Barack: ‘She Will Be Nominee’

This article was published in the August 18, 2008, edition of The New York Observer.

Defiant Clinton Women Refuse To Support Obama
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Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild doesn’t look like a radical.

Surrounded by bike paths, ponds and the Atlantic Ocean in her Martha’s Vineyard farmhouse, not far from where Bill and Hillary Clinton usually summer, the lifelong Democrat and Clinton fund-raiser opened a laptop to her “Together4Us” Web site, an online petition that features Hillary Clinton looking luminous above a series of demands made of Barack Obama and the Democratic Party.

Ms. de Rothschild, 54, dressed in matching blue pants and sweater, blond hair tucked behind her ears, said she plans to send copies of the more than 6,000 signatures she has collected to superdelegates, Mr. Obama, his top officials, Howard Dean and officials at the Democratic National Committee, on Aug. 18—the Monday before the Democratic convention.

And she’ll be there, at the convention, to help press those demands, she said, especially including a dramatic overhaul of the nominating process by which Mr. Obama won the primary. She said she was well aware of Mrs. Clinton’s efforts to get Mr. Obama elected, as well as the efforts of the Obama campaign staffers, whom she said she liked, to appease Mrs. Clinton’s supporters. Despite it all, Ms. de Rothschild does not plan to vote for him.

“I think it’s difficult for him to fix it because of the judgments he’s made in the past and his lack of experience,” she said, adding that there was really nothing Mrs. Clinton could do about it. “If we are dissatisfied with Obama as a potential president, Hillary cannot be expected to change our minds.”

A phenomenon born from the debris of Mrs. Clinton’s presidential campaign has taken on a life of its own.

The mostly female collection of activists who continue to rally around the cause of a decommissioned White House bid can’t exactly be described as an organized movement. There are the wealthy donors who work within official party channels and talk calmly about reforming the party’s nominating process or protecting against gender bias in future elections. Their level of hostility toward the Obama campaign varies. And then there are the outright rejectionists: the raucous bloggers and founders of groups like PUMA (Party Unity My Ass) who plan to disrupt the convention and have declared all-out war against Mr. Obama and his supporters, who they accuse of making death threats and leaving dead bunny rabbits on doorsteps in the middle of the night.

What they share, without exception, is a profound disappointment at the way the primary turned out, and a revulsion at the way they perceive Mrs. Clinton to have been treated.

That has been enough to establish a de facto echo chamber that has proven to be a headache for Mr. Obama as his campaign tries to project Democratic unity ahead of the convention during the last week of August.

“There’s an unbelievable camaraderie and yet in some cases we have nothing in common,” said Diane Mantouvalos, a leader in the JustSayNoDeal anti-Obama coalition, who plans to attend the Denver convention and work in a loft rented out for pro-Hillary bloggers from around the country. “There is an element of venting, but also, if you thought you were alone, you were wrong.”

The best-established group of Clinton ’08 loyalists consists of influential Democratic bundlers like Ms. de Rothschild, Jill Iscol and Susie Tompkins Buell.

Recently, several of them met privately with Senator Chuck Schumer, who runs the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. According to a number of attendees and sources with direct knowledge of the meeting, their purpose was to lobby Mr. Schumer about introducing a new code of conduct for Democratic candidates that would officially declare gender bias as offensive as racism, and to encourage him to make it the official position of the party not to deal with media outlets perceived to be trafficking in misogyny.

“It was productive,” said one attendee.

(Mr. Schumer’s office said the senator was traveling abroad and could not be reached for comment.)

Ms. Buell plans to attend the convention only on Aug. 26, and will attend with the former first lady a discussion about gender bias held by the political action committee Women Count, before Mrs. Clinton delivers her prime-time speech. She says she will vote for Mr. Obama, but instead of raising money for him, she will concentrate on Congressional races this cycle.

“We can’t let this happen again,” she said.

Ms. Iscol, too, has arrived at compromise somewhere short of full support for the nominee.

She considers herself a devoted friend to Mrs. Clinton, whom she first met at her Vineyard home in 1997, and for whom she raised hundreds of thousands of dollars during her presidential campaign. She said she likes Mr. Obama, whom she first met at a dinner on the Vineyard in 2004, and described herself as committed to party unity. She plans to vote for Mr. Obama—he called her after the primaries to ask for her support—but she said she is waiting to see if Mrs. Clinton is put on the ticket before she decides whether to raise money for Mr. Obama.

Ms. de Rothschild, on the other hand, doesn’t see herself even voting for Mr. Obama.

She said the Obama campaign has addressed her demands to give Mrs. Clinton a prime-time platform during the convention and adopt some of her language into the party platform, but she still has grievances. She thinks the bitter primary exposed the nominating process’ system of caucuses and proportionally weighted delegates as fundamentally undemocratic, and she wants Mr. Obama and Mr. Dean to address the fact that it needs to be fixed. And she has a problem with the way the Clintons were treated.

“If this party turns its back on Bill Clinton, it’s not a party that deserves our loyalty,” she said.

She also said she still has serious reservations about Mr. Obama’s principles and experience and thinks the questions raised during the primaries about his unsavory associations with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Tony Rezko remain appropriate issues.

“That’s not Swift-boating,” she said.

In that regard, at least, Ms. de Rothschild has something in common with the anti-Obama bloggers and organizers, about 60 of whom gathered at the Country Inn hotel near Dulles airport in Washington on Aug. 9 and 10 for a leadership meeting to coordinate strategy for protesting the Democratic convention. (The meeting was closed to the press, organizers said, to avoid infiltration by Obama sympathizers.)

The attendees came from the ranks of the creators of PUMA and dozens of Web sites, including HillaryClintonforum, pumaparty, AlwaysForHillary, the Denver Group—which plans to run anti-Obama commercials during the convention—and a blog radio show called No Quarter (featuring a “Reading Rezko” edition). Many of the sites feature videos of pumas baring their teeth in the wild.

In this parallel universe, Mr. Obama, or NObama, as he is often called, is a misogynistic fraud. The DNC and other Democratic officials were in on it, too, conspiring against Mrs. Clinton to advance their own political agenda.

In one typical video, Howard Dean is juxtaposed with images of Dopey from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs; Donna Brazile is compared to Ursula the Sea Witch from The Little Mermaid; and Nancy Pelosi morphs into Cruella De Vil from 101 Dalmations. Next Page >

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Anonymous (not verified) says:

I AM SO EXCITED THAT THERE ARE REAL LIVE SUPPORTERS FOR PRESIDENT HILLARY CLINTON (NICE RING TO IT HUH????) MY DREAM EVER SINCE HILLARY STARTED HER SENATE CAREER WAS TO MEET THE LADY IN PERSON..I WOULD GIVE ANYTHING TO JOIN IN AND BE A PART OF THE HILLARY MOVEMENT IN DENVER AND TRY AND CONVINCE HILLARY TO PUT HER NAME IN FOR NOMINATION IN DENVER. I HAVE DONATED AS MUCH AS I CAN TO THE LADY AND PRAY EVERY NIGHT FOR SOME WAY TO GET TO DENVER BUT MY FINANCES DO NOT ALLOW SUCH A JOURNEY. THE BEST I CAN DO IS KEEP SEARCHING FOR A PETITION TO SIGN TO LET HER KNOW HOW SOME OF US IN CALIFORNIA RESPECT HER AND PRAY EVERY NIGHT FOR HER SUCCESS

Anonymous (not verified) says:

Don't the PUMAs get it?

A) Hillary voted for the immoral Iraq War, leading to the unwarranted deaths of a million people (according to Pew research, the British Medical Association, and Johns Hopkins University) and the squandering of a trillion dollars, 20% of which has lined the pockets of corporate mercenaries (read yesterday's Times) -- just so she could look "tough" on defense. (She confessed to not reading the intelligence, didn't she?)

B) She ran a terrible campaign. (Read the Atlantic!)

If she hadn't done (A) she probably would be the nominee, however badly she ran her campaign. (And millions of Democrats like me would have voted for her.)

But she blew it -- and snuffed the lives of untold numbers of women and children in the process (whatever her purported social concerns).

But I guess those are Iraqi women and children so they don't count, huh, PUMAS?

Anonymous (not verified) says:

Of course, the Iraquis count. Some Americans grieve over all who die, no matter who they are, and that includes our military and American citizens killed in terrorist acts. Hillary is one who grieves more than most and would never vote for killing anyone, unless the safety of American citizens was gravely threatened. George Bush's and Dick Cheney's lies fooled many senators including Hillary. Had they acted as they said he would, the entire situaton would have been much different. Since Obama didn't have the responsibility of voting, I think, epecially based on his voting record both in Illinois and the Senate, it is arrogant for him to presume how he would have voted. So if that's the only reason you're voting for Obama, you'd better take a good long look at what else you get as well as what you don't get. It's not too late for HIllary!! PUMA

DE (not verified) says:

Darragh Murphy is delusional and the reporter shouldn't have taken anything she said at face value. She donated $500 to McCain in 2000 (public record -- look it up) -- claiming she only did it because she was concerned about Bush getting the nomination -- but didn't donate anything to Gore. And the ultra-privileged Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild called Obama an "elitist" on CNN. I've been a long-suffering Democrat for many, many years and this is the first time the presidential candidate I wanted to get the nomination actually succeeded. You didn't see me throwing pity parties on Fox News when Bill Bradley or Wesley Clark lost their races. And they want to purge *me*? These people are jokes. The punchline will come after Denver when no one (including the media) cares what they think anymore. They'll just be a handful more Republicans. Good riddance.

Jackie (not verified) says:

Stand proud and Stay strong... I have to admit this is the first election that I have followed closely....Initially I was torn between Hillary and Obama.... I knew Hillary was capable, but I wanted to see who this Obama character was and the more I heard and the more I saw I was completely baffled why he was in the race..... It's ironic the O.J. hotel robbery hit the air real close to the time of Reverend Wright's rant and rave....I started hearing Obama this, Obama that and I was still looking for why he was being put on such a high podium, and then you'd see O.J. with his smug grin, Obama had that same smug grin.My thought OH my GOD people are voting for Obama because he's black I asked people what has Obama done I've never even heard of him..... To this day when you ask his supporters what has he done to merit being president..... They say go to his web site and read his ideas...I don't care about his ideas I want to know about his accomplishments....Then I want to hear just how that accomplishment materialized..... It's pretty clear that the majority of Americans want a "CHANGE" and we all "HOPE" IF it will work in our best interest.... If one is going to promise this country "CHANGE" and "HOPE" claim to unite the country, I want to know just how you plan to pull that off..... To this day I still haven't heard Obama's plan..... However,

I have read his wife's thesis, I saw her and heard her play the blame game for her lack of patriotism.

I heard and watched Obama stand on national television make a racist statement in making excuses for his radical spiritual leader and mentor.
( I have worked over 10 years with adolescent, teaching them to live a Discrimination Free Zone life)

That was it for me I will work as hard as I can to boycott Obama... There is no way he can win because the youngsters will hear a loud clear message that they can insult an discriminate a population whom is different and still be come president......

IF you Google the words 'thinking errors" these are thought patterns of thoughts our clients were taught to recognize in their own thought process, so they could recognize them and own their actions based on that style of thinking......

As a Sociology Major You learn how one's physical mental and emotional environment molds one to becoming who they become.....

That's the gist of why Obama should not win this race.....

Hillary in Denver 2008.....NO Obama......OR McCain all the way.....

Jackie (not verified) says:

Just so you know their have been Obama supporters who have been able to state their opinion while being respect full.... I actually watched a guy deliver his message quite respectfully on you tube... I told him even though that we weren't of the same thinking I had an enormous amount respect form him because he was respectful... However, for the most part Obama's supporters are mean, evil and disrespectful and have played a big part in The Anti Obama sediment that is looming....It just goes to show Obama has no control or influence over his own supporters, he has done absolutely nothing unify the party, in fact strong arming delegates and telling them to vote for Obama regardless of what their voters voiced is not how democracy is done so in all actuality we did not leave the party the party left us....And maybe it's time for a new party something like the Discrimination Free Zone (DFZ) party and the party symbol could reassemble something balanced such as the ying and the yang......

antonia (not verified) says:

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Heidi Li Feldman (not verified) says:

Congratulations to the Observer for publishing a clear and accurate story about the range of views related to Senator Clinton and Senator Obama. Further congratulations to Ricki Lieberman and Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild for their dedication and integrity. They both appreciate that it is unwise for The Democratic Party to pretend unity when none exists. Unity cannot be manufactured, it must be earned. Whether the DNC's approach to Senator Obama's campaign, Senator Clinton's campaign and the upcoming National Convention will help to earn support and enthusiasm for the ultimate nominee and for the Party apparatus, which is essential to downticket Democrats' success in the fall, remains to be seen.

Sincerely,
Heidi Li Feldman
co-founder, The Denver Group

Antonia (not verified) says:

YOU GO GIRLS!!!!

The DNC has orchestrated a systematic take-down of Senator Hillary Clinton...and is now attempting an installation of a HUGELY inexperienced candidate at the "CORONATION" in Denver.

How dare they attempt to keep Hillary off the ballot ... what are they afraid of?

THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN TO A MALE CANDIDATE!

Americans should be outraged at the actions of this party... they should be held accountable and I suspect they will be -- IN NOVEMBER!

I'm glad to see the Media are covering the opposition to Barack Obama -- it's real and palpable.

Mannie Oakley (not verified) says:

"Superdelegates, of course, became irrelevant to the national political discourse the day Mrs. Clinton dropped out of the race"

GOOD GOD! How often does the media have to be corrected?? Can't you "journalists" ever get it right? Hillary SUSPENDED her campaign – she did not "drop out". She can UNSUSPEND her campaign any time she wants.

History calls for Hillary's name be placed into nomination and on the ballot. HISTORY CALLS FOR THIS. Obama & Co are piddling around acting as tho it's "something to be worked out". It isn't. It's been tradition since 18884.

If an exception is made now, with the most successful female candidate IN HISTORY, I'd say it's a clear case of gender discrimination and ripe for the EEOC. After all, their first question is: "Was the woman treated differently than the men in a comparable situation?" Answer is YES if Hillary is not given her and her supporters and her delegates historical due.

Defiant women? YOU BET! But there are a lot of men behind this movement too!! We don't like seeing our party lose this election. And exactly that will happen if Obama is the nominee. His ties to Odinga, to Islamic Hope, to Farrakhan, Wright, Rezko, Ayers, and the whole menagerie of "associates" he's kept will be brought into the public eye by the GOP and Dems will LOSE!

WE WANT AND NEED HILLLARY CLINTON. SHE IS THE ONLY CHANCE THE DEMS HAVE TO WIN THE ELECTION!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzL8Sn3Zl5A

navyvet48 (not verified) says:

Thank you for outlining the various opinions of the coalition. I have to say no to Obama because I believe he is very inexperienced and elitist. I for one felt like one of those small town Pennsylvanians that he called bitter. I have a Bible and guns. I live on a dirt road in rural Kansas.

I am not famous nor did I collect thousands of dollars for Hillary, however my belief that she is the right person to be president will never waver. I gave money to Hillary. And as my husband who is one of Hillary's biggest fans says he gave much too, he gave me. My last tour of duty for Hillary was the Veterans for Hillary Tour through Montana.

I cannot stand by a party, any party, now the Democratic Party and watch them self destruct because they have lost their way. They have once again given us a empty man, Obama, one who brings no empathy or caring for people like me. As a matter of fact, the Democratic Party told me to stay home.

I am not staying home, I am casting my vote for MMcCain. His response to the Georgia conflict was right on the money for me. With Hillary or McCain I am certain our national security is not at risk. National Security and the appropriate measures with foreign leaders especially thugs like Putin is more important to me than the unity jackass is. I will never ride the unity jackass.

My vote is my vote, Obama and the Democratic Party threw that away many months ago! Hillary earned my vote through her tireless 35 years of public service to the country....McCain has earned my vote through his tireless efforts as a true maverick! Obama was a community organizer and worked for a fraudulent company ACORN, during those days!

And as I sit here writing this I am reminded of his Memorial Day speech .... he talked about the unending line of dead veterans and then said this....I even see some in the audience today.....yes! he saw dead veterans in the audience on that day.

He never lost this disabled female veterans vote, he never earned it and never had it!

Piper (not verified) says:

For anonymous @ August 13, 2008 3:39 AM :

Your arguments are weak. First, Obama was in no position to vote for or against AUMF, and we'll never know what we would have done had he been able to cast a vote on it.

I'm also sure you have no problem with Kerry, Edwards, Daschle, Biden, et al voting for AUMF.

And taking those 200 cherry-picked e-mails as proof that Hillary can't manage people is ridiculous. She won all of the big states and the popular vote despite tensions in her campaign staff and shameful treatment by the media and members of her own party. I think that's a testament to her leadership.

On to Denver....

I Pity Bored Rich Eldery Women (not verified) says:

The photo of these gals says it all. I'm working hard to find Bill's latest bimbo so that she can come forward before the convention and the dreadful Clintons can stay home.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

The age difference between Lynn Forester de Rothschild and the putative nominee is 7 years. My God, she's old enough to be Barry Obama's...big sister!

In what alternatve universe is someone 47 "young and dynamic" and someone 54 "elderly"? Obamaland of course!

Just sign me
I Pity the Deluded

SistaChristianLouboutin (not verified) says:

Thank you Together4Us, PUMA, JSND, Ms. Leiberman, Ms. Feldman and others. The actions of the Democratic Party leadership will be its undoing. A primary process that was skewed to favor one candidate over another, discounts the popular vote and allows for corruption and voter disenfranchisement is an outrage.

Attempting to break a tradition that has been a cornerstone since 1884 is another disgrace. Senator Clinton's name should absolutely be placed in nomination at the Convention as candidates' names, including Chairman Dean's in 2004, have in the past. What is the problem, is Camp Obama worried he won't glean the necessary votes on the floor? If Senator Obama has the majority of support because he won the primary "fair and square," why should wanting to adhere to a time-honored tradition be causing such a stir?

DemocracyDame (not verified) says:

The headline says it all. "Defiant Women Refuse"

Who are we defying? The misogynistic DNC leaders and their media lap-dogs who bashed Clinton and COVERED UP AND COLLUDED with THE Edwards'?

The race-baiting Obama?

The Obamabots who attack ANYONE who is not "falling in line" like thousands of white corpuscles on an interloper into the bloodstream?

Like CNN, who SYSTEMATICALLY DELETES ALMOST ANY CRITICISM of Obama on their Blogs? (See Jack Cafferty's from yesterday)

Perhaps if the media would do a better job...check that..do ANY JOB of vetting Mr. Obama and his LONG HISTORY of dealing with unsavory and foreign operatives, more Americans would get a clue.

The process and the Party have been hijacked by the far, far left. And for the most part, this is no longer about Senator Clinton becoming the nominee, but about exposing and reforming the Party.

So long as the media TRY AND CHARACTERIZE those of us who DO NOT BELIEVE BARACK OBAMA is in the best interest of the country - for ALL Americans - and DO NOT SUPPORT OBAMA'S ELECTION, no matter what we are told to do by any Party or Candidate - as "defiant" or "disgruntled Clinton Supporters" or other pejorative terms, you will only help build this resistance. When is "The Media" going to start doing THEIR JOB and start vetting this disastrous man and the inner-workings and back room deals within the Democratic Leadership?

You will reap what you sow.

AnnieNyc (not verified) says:

Defiant women? refuse? guess what, it's not defiant to not want to vote for someone, and no one owes obama a vote.

Try changing the title to: Many democrats think obama is full of it.

Fiona (not verified) says:
>Ms. Murphy, a mother of three who lives outside Boston, believes that the only way to save the Democratic Party at this point is to destroy it. Mr. Obama must lose, and his supporters must be purged.<<

All due respect-
Weren't these the exact words of Donna Brazile?
Looks as though Mr. Horowitz is confusing "Darragh" with "Donna"!

Please note that the PUMA movement and the Denver Group
hope to keep the convention democratic. As a PUMA, I am unaware of any plans to promote any sort of violence.
These rumors are simply absurd.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

Brava! Great article! I'm so pleased to see the strong persistent groups of people fighting so hard to keep Hillary in the running, and keeping her historic run to the White House alive!

GO HILLARY! We love you!

And please, I beg of all of you, ...NOBAMA!!!

The 90s are over (not verified) says:

Well of course the ancient Baronness deRothschild doesn't care about reproductive rights-her lady parts have stopped working long ago. So, to prove her point, she's going to vote for McCain.

suef4hil (not verified) says:

Hillary voted for the war along w/ 75 other senators. And don't forget, Barry was not in the senate at the time, who knows how he would have voted after the way he screwed FISA. And campaign finance. Abortion. Gun control. The death penalty. And now his plans on Iraq. And on Georgia.

Let's not forget, he is the nominee because he funds the MSM w/ adds (where were the reports on John Edwards? The pathetic MSM wouldn't dare denounce the democrats with all the dinero they are getting from Obama's campaign. Think that is not true? Where the dickens were they in reporting on WMDs before we went to Iraq?)

Obama is the nominee because he ran a crooked campaign, with reports of voter suppression, caucus inaccuracies, the media reports of Hillary not having a chance, voter fraud, and most recently, super delegate intimidation.

Is this the kind of guy you want at the helm?

Not this life long democrat. I still believe in the democratic platform but they "leadership" of the DNC has clearly morphed into megalomaniacs. This year I will vote for a Republican because at least I know what I am getting

prplvette85 (not verified) says:

I find it very sad, that in the country the world looks up to as the epitomy of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY has been everything except that during this election. We as Americans,and lifelong democrats have been used, abused, been called every name in the book and threatened that if we don't hop on this fake unity bus our rights will be taken away from us. Well guess what? We are not afraid to stand up for our rights. I guess many have forgotten that the dnc are public officials, they are where they are because of us, the voters. Not only did no one step up to the mis treatment of a former First Lady, a Senior Senator, the threats keep coming. We are saying enough is enough. We will not give in to your threats, and we are many. Women, men, old, young,Black, White, Italian, Latino, Asian and more. We will never vote Obama, and we WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER

Mary Lou (not verified) says:

What on earth would make Barack Obama and his handlers think he is so special that he should be beyond challenge at the convention, even though he has not received enough pledged delegates to wrap up the nomination yet?
What on earth could justify this overthrow of the Democratic process? This is frightening stuff, and Obama supporters need to realize that once these strong-arming, silencing tactics are deemed"acceptable" they could also be used against him, at any time and any place.
But back to Hillary Clinton - she has every right to be nominated, and the votes of her delegates expressed, just like any other candidate who has received pledged delegates in any other nominating cycle. To push her out would be nothing but thuggery and Democrats would have this on their conscience, that is, if they still have one.

Carol (not verified) says:

I am proud of what these strong women are standing up for. The Democratic party needs to stay democratic. We can't continue to have the media and the far left wing of the party continue to choose our candidates. They are making Hillary look like some monster for what every male candidate has had automatically - a roll call of their delegates at the convention. As female they exept her to roll over and make nice so Obama will look better without the closeness of the race staring him in the face.

When I was younger I never considered myself a feminist. It takes years to understand and became apalled by the bias that was fed into you since birth. It is everywhere in our media and in our higher institutions. Some day these younger women will understand the importance of standing up against sexism. We are talking about our daughters here.

Diamond Tiger (not verified) says:

The whispers are becoming louder and the DNC Leadership is trying to figure out how to keep the natives calm. Too Late Boys! You put yourselves in the mix by backing this inexperienced chameleon and now you will have to deal with the saner half of the Dem Party saying NO DEAL!

Diamond Tiger
PUMA
Just Say No Deal
Logistics Monster

chezmadame (not verified) says:

Why should Hillary Clinton's delegates be treated any differently than the delegates for all of the previous Democratic Conventions?

There have only been four conventions since 1832 during which the nominee was decided by acclamation instead of a ballot, and all four nominees were incumbents (FDR, LBJ, Bill Clinton, and Al Gore).

Hillary Clinton’s supporters simply want her to have the same opportunity that all of her predecessors have had. Barack Obama is still a candidate, albeit the presumptive nominee, but he is not an incumbent.

Imagine the outcry if Senator Clinton had been selected by the DNC and the historic opportunity for Obama’s name to be put in nomination was stonewalled by party insiders in the name “appearing unified”.

Frankly, if Senator Obama can't face the same challenges that all other non-incumbent Democratic nominees have had to face, how on earth will the Democratic Party be able to beat John McCain?

BigCatLover (not verified) says:

This article is yet another example of why grassroots organizations have to form to get an honest point of view out there. While there seems to be alot of research and varied opinions in the piece, most of it is lightweight and inaccurate. Darraugh Murphy is quoted as saying things she didn't say (without quotation marks of course). Provocative misquotes are rife throughout the article (unfortunately, the dead rabbit was tied to a car antenna not put on a doorstep) to give the impression of a disjointed hysterical fringe group when nothing could be farther from the truth. These are lifelong democrats who have been in the trenches for the party for years and know what they are doing. And oh by the way, there are many, many men and African Americans in the movement, too. The lazy press strikes again.

Ann L. MacNaughton (not verified) says:

Jason Horowitz,

Thank you for publishing some of the truths about the nature of the opposition within the Democratic Party to the nomination of an insufficiently inexperienced individual to the top of its ticket.

Though I do not believe you deliberately played into the Obama Campaign's dismissal of this opposition as "middle-aged angry white women" by stating it is a "mostly female collection of activists", your readers should know that ~ of 18+ million US voters who cast their vote for Senator Clinton during the primary campaign ~ MANY MEN continue to work tirelessly alongside many women for the nomination of the only electable US presidential candidate.

Initially I supported Senator Obama for Vice President, thinking that 8 years as president-in-training would gain us a second highly experienced and competent 8-year administration......16 years of Democratic Administration might suffice to develop and launch long-term solutions to the ominous 'perfect storm' of complex economic, environmental, and geopolitical issues that today imperil our nation, our world, and our legacy.

Unfortunately, the primary campaign season vetted issues that should have been identified in advance by the DNC, some of which have tainted the Obama Campaign beyond repair. As the Gallup, Rasmussen, and Quinnipac polls confirm, Senator Obama cannot win the general election campaign ~ and, as they show with equal clarity, Senator Clinton *can* win the general election and recapture the White House for the Democratic Party.

With any luck at all, Senator Clinton will be nominated in Denver as the Democratic Party's candidate for President of the United States, and Democrats will recapture the White House in November.

Go Go Go (not verified) says:

At least I can give the author credit for running this story which the so called progressive main stream media for the most part seems determined to ignore if they can. However once again they try to portray Hillary Clinton supporters as being women. Why is this? Because in doing so they discredit them, and ignore the fact that this is about something far more important than gender. 40% of Clinton supporters are MALE.

Can we say DEMOCRACY?

Go PUMAs Go Clintonistas.

Hillary Suspended not ended her campaign, and only because of the Superdelegates who switched all the time when Hillary was continuing to win in the big states and the swing states.

These superdelegates recieved more donations from Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLPoV4diMjk

For the delegate count alone, Barack is only the presumed nominee, he does not have enough delegates to claim the crown, and this is exactly what this is, a coronation.

Hillary Clinton has every democratic right to put her name into nomination, and her supporters have every right to refuse to fall in line behind a unity pony that they do not believe in. The reason for disunity is plain and simple, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote and the swing states needed for the election, and is by far the more electable candidate.

She is the one that the country needs and the world needs.

Anonymous (not verified) says:

As I watch the polls each day, showing Barack barely squeaking by McCain, I wonder how valid these numbers are. It starts to make sense when I speak to people about the candidates. They don't seem to be all that gung-ho about McCain, but even the ones who started out wanting Obama (I admit, I was one of them) now are very, very leery about him. I work at a university and even the former diehard student Obama fans are having second thoughts. Honestly, from where I sit, here at a prominent urban university, I can see the tide is turning. And it is turning away from Barack. If the democrats insist on keeping Obama as their candidate in the fall, they are going to flat out lose this race. I know about which I speak. Hillary would win easily over McCain.

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