by the way, I'm has right wing has they come, full fledged member of the lobby!!!!!!!!. And I was never for this war for the simple reason that it was an attempt to get rid of a dictator and give the people of a Iraq a chance to have a pluralistic liberal democracy and a civil society. The problem is that any student of the area knows that these things are antithetical to both Islam and the Arab mentality. They need dicatators and brutality to hold them in line. You can't look at this through a western mirror. From Casablanca to Karachi you have bunch of demented lunatics and no sacrifices from our incredibly brave military can change that. and we all know it.