In their day they had some pretty good foreign reporting. These stories had a tendency to go and on and on and on and on and on. I remember one great reporter out of Harford County. I was an editor in the burbs, when the daily and the suburban editions were the equivalent of church and state. I dubbed her the queen of the three-inch epic. I asked if she ever filed a real story. She said she filed daily, that what she wrote was whittled down to a brief -- if that, and what she filed and they didn't used was flushed. None of those stories ever ended up even in the surburban editions. Now was this occurred pre-LA Times. I was always amazed at the amount of potentially good local reporting that went to waste. At such a big organization you can piss away money very easily, and under the old owners they did.