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RonX (not verified) says:
You: The "self-interested blacks" are the black political hacks who support Billary.
Me: Hardly. The black primary voters have been responsible for some of the most glaringly racist, race-line voting in memory. Had David Duke run against Jesse Jackson in the racist South of the 1960s, he'd have been hard pressed to do better with whites than Obama has done with blacks. All this from people who purported to love the Clintons for the last 15 years!
You: Yes, more affluent whites support Obama. The "Archie Bunkers" support Hillary. I guess I'm going to have to explain this to you Ron X, the affluent white are opinion leaders. Sorry.
Me: This kind of shameless, elitist horseshit is why we've had one Democratic president in the last 28 years and why Democrats can't get a vote away from the coasts. This is what's so absurd about Democratic-party politics. If you say something about blacks, Jews, gays, or illegal immigrants, they want to label you a bigot, yet unless you grew up in the right place, went to the right school, or share the quixotic causes of the affluent, they won't speak to you. Priceless. This is why Democrats can't get a vote in the South, which was formerly a Democratic stronghold. There was a time, not too long ago, when a Republican couldn't get a vote in Texas. Now it's nearly the opposite. And why? Because of people like you.
You: If VA is any sign, the "Archie Bunkers are starting to wise up.
Me: And "wise up" should mean voting for a guy with no discernible policies, all of three years in the Senate, and absolutely no executive experience on any level of government? That is not a presidential resume, and I simply don't have enough guilt to feel compelled to vote for him simply because he's a Magic Black Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro).
You: Obama appears to be king of the "fly over" states. (Check your map Ronnie). Billary won Mass, NY and CA and not very much else.
Me: She won California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Florida. She's going to win Texas, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. That will be the end of the story. She's winning the big states.
You: Her staunch supporters continue to ignore her support of the war mongering idiot-liar.
Me: As opposed to Obama, who (1) didn't have to cast a vote because he wasn't in the Senate when the War vote came up; and (2) continually voted "present" on crucial issues throughout his history in the Illinois State legislature. In fact, he cast "present" votes even on core Democratic issues like gun control (SB 71 and SB 759) and abortion rights(HB 382 and SB 230). Voting "present" is WORSE than making a bad vote because it evinces a total lack of conviction and a preoccupation with protecting your record against future attacks. It's essentially an abdication of your Office. Hillary made a mistake on the war, but I'd take her "yes" vote over Obama's strategic cop-outs any day of the week.
You: The "self-interested blacks" are the black political hacks who support Billary.
Me: Hardly. The black primary voters have been responsible for some of the most glaringly racist, race-line voting in memory. Had David Duke run against Jesse Jackson in the racist South of the 1960s, he'd have been hard pressed to do better with whites than Obama has done with blacks. All this from people who purported to love the Clintons for the last 15 years!
You: Yes, more affluent whites support Obama. The "Archie Bunkers" support Hillary. I guess I'm going to have to explain this to you Ron X, the affluent white are opinion leaders. Sorry.
Me: This kind of shameless, elitist horseshit is why we've had one Democratic president in the last 28 years and why Democrats can't get a vote away from the coasts. This is what's so absurd about Democratic-party politics. If you say something about blacks, Jews, gays, or illegal immigrants, they want to label you a bigot, yet unless you grew up in the right place, went to the right school, or share the quixotic causes of the affluent, they won't speak to you. Priceless. This is why Democrats can't get a vote in the South, which was formerly a Democratic stronghold. There was a time, not too long ago, when a Republican couldn't get a vote in Texas. Now it's nearly the opposite. And why? Because of people like you.
You: If VA is any sign, the "Archie Bunkers are starting to wise up.
Me: And "wise up" should mean voting for a guy with no discernible policies, all of three years in the Senate, and absolutely no executive experience on any level of government? That is not a presidential resume, and I simply don't have enough guilt to feel compelled to vote for him simply because he's a Magic Black Guy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Negro).
You: Obama appears to be king of the "fly over" states. (Check your map Ronnie). Billary won Mass, NY and CA and not very much else.
Me: She won California, New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts and Florida. She's going to win Texas, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. That will be the end of the story. She's winning the big states.
You: Her staunch supporters continue to ignore her support of the war mongering idiot-liar.
Me: As opposed to Obama, who (1) didn't have to cast a vote because he wasn't in the Senate when the War vote came up; and (2) continually voted "present" on crucial issues throughout his history in the Illinois State legislature. In fact, he cast "present" votes even on core Democratic issues like gun control (SB 71 and SB 759) and abortion rights(HB 382 and SB 230). Voting "present" is WORSE than making a bad vote because it evinces a total lack of conviction and a preoccupation with protecting your record against future attacks. It's essentially an abdication of your Office. Hillary made a mistake on the war, but I'd take her "yes" vote over Obama's strategic cop-outs any day of the week.