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VanGogh (not verified) says:
To Ross Odom:
Honestly, where do you come up with this stuff? Every time you post you get it wrong or make something up.
Let’s review this round of false assertions:
You state:
“My theory is that the majority of people who oppose this war, those on the left, are simply engaged in what they're always engaged in--their quest for power. They need to feel powerful because they're innately power-less. It's not war they're against, it's this war. And it's this war because it's not their war”.
First of all Ross, I WAS FOR THE IRAQ WAR. My opinion has changed since the invasion because of lack of WMDs, lack of ties to Al Qaeda, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, torture, the murder of thousands maybe millions of Iraqi civilians, millions of displaced Iraqis, etc. I know a lot of other people who have since said the war was a mistake. Two-thirds of this country (I cited that above but I’m sure you ignored it like you do most facts and statistics) feel that the war wasn’t worth it.
I guess two thirds of America just don’t feel powerful enough huh Ross?
Unlike you I change my views when I think I am wrong. This is not about feeling powerful Ross; it’s about morality……something you seem to lack. The very idea of you suggesting I or anybody else is opposed to this war because we need to feel powerful is not only disgusting but so far off the mark that you actually sound delusional. I’m glad you made those statements though because you illustrate the cancer that is growing in our country. It’s people like you who have created a blind subservient society of government sycophants.
Wake up Ross. Governments lie.
Instead of addressing the real issues regarding the Iraq war, you create a fantasy world where you can feel superior by inventing rationalizations for people opposing the Iraq.
You are truly sad Ross.
And might I add that “this war” doesn’t exclusively belong to Bush, Republicans or you! We are all Americans and this war is being fought in all of our names. I pay taxes that go to pay for the military too Ross. For you to say “it’s not their war” is not only ignorant but disrespectful. YOU don’t get to decide whose war this is Ross. You don’t speak for me or anyone else. You only speak for small-minded you.
Got that Ross!
Also you said:
“And, to my point, it's ideologically-based. When their guys are in power, the use of force is justified; but let a Republican or other conservative wield that same power, and they want to burn them at the stake.”
Really? I supported the invasion of Afghanistan (and still do) as most people did because THAT WAS JUSTIFIED. In fact I can’t find many people who disagree with invading Afghanistan. Al Queda was operating out of that country ….and still are.
I supported the first Bush when he kicked Saddam out of Iraq. Oh wait a minute….that blows a massive hole in your tired, misguided, immature and unoriginal argument.
Seriously Ross, stop before you hurt yourself. Leave the analysis to people who actually use critical thinking rather that spouting talking points.
To Ross Odom:
Honestly, where do you come up with this stuff? Every time you post you get it wrong or make something up.
Let’s review this round of false assertions:
You state:
“My theory is that the majority of people who oppose this war, those on the left, are simply engaged in what they're always engaged in--their quest for power. They need to feel powerful because they're innately power-less. It's not war they're against, it's this war. And it's this war because it's not their war”.
First of all Ross, I WAS FOR THE IRAQ WAR. My opinion has changed since the invasion because of lack of WMDs, lack of ties to Al Qaeda, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo Bay, torture, the murder of thousands maybe millions of Iraqi civilians, millions of displaced Iraqis, etc. I know a lot of other people who have since said the war was a mistake. Two-thirds of this country (I cited that above but I’m sure you ignored it like you do most facts and statistics) feel that the war wasn’t worth it.
I guess two thirds of America just don’t feel powerful enough huh Ross?
Unlike you I change my views when I think I am wrong. This is not about feeling powerful Ross; it’s about morality……something you seem to lack. The very idea of you suggesting I or anybody else is opposed to this war because we need to feel powerful is not only disgusting but so far off the mark that you actually sound delusional. I’m glad you made those statements though because you illustrate the cancer that is growing in our country. It’s people like you who have created a blind subservient society of government sycophants.
Wake up Ross. Governments lie.
Instead of addressing the real issues regarding the Iraq war, you create a fantasy world where you can feel superior by inventing rationalizations for people opposing the Iraq.
You are truly sad Ross.
And might I add that “this war” doesn’t exclusively belong to Bush, Republicans or you! We are all Americans and this war is being fought in all of our names. I pay taxes that go to pay for the military too Ross. For you to say “it’s not their war” is not only ignorant but disrespectful. YOU don’t get to decide whose war this is Ross. You don’t speak for me or anyone else. You only speak for small-minded you.
Got that Ross!
Also you said:
“And, to my point, it's ideologically-based. When their guys are in power, the use of force is justified; but let a Republican or other conservative wield that same power, and they want to burn them at the stake.”
Really? I supported the invasion of Afghanistan (and still do) as most people did because THAT WAS JUSTIFIED. In fact I can’t find many people who disagree with invading Afghanistan. Al Queda was operating out of that country ….and still are.
I supported the first Bush when he kicked Saddam out of Iraq. Oh wait a minute….that blows a massive hole in your tired, misguided, immature and unoriginal argument.
Seriously Ross, stop before you hurt yourself. Leave the analysis to people who actually use critical thinking rather that spouting talking points.
VanGogh