The Morning Read
Daily News takes a look at State Senator Carl Andrews, who asks "How bad could I be," in light of his connections to Clarence Norman and Eliot Spitzer.
In their headline, The New York Sun notes Weld Fought Giuliani in Brooklyn Museum Battle. How bad can that be?
To round out the uncertainty, Newsday reports Christine Quinn will decide by March 17 whether she'll walk in the St. Patrick's Day parade.
--Azi Paybarah
Carl is a hack. He has zero interest in public service. Voters will ask: What have you done for me lately?
Conundrum for Chris Owens. How does he go after Carl Andrews for his Norman connection when his own father told a pro-Noramn rally that Norman's indictment was a "lynching"? (As Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner turned over in their shallow muddy graves.)
Arguments in Chris Quinn's head:
1) Giff Miller didn't march, but and he's not even gay.
2) But, Giff Miller's not Irish either.
Carl Andrews is another one of those politicans that you can file under the column: "Major Dissappointments".
Yes, it is true that he started out as a reformer, but can Carl look any one of us involved in Brooklyn's insurgency politics in the eye, and make that reformer claim? The answer is a resounding NO!.
And yes Carl is a very charming and likeable kinda guy, but he has long stoppped caring about issues of political empowerment (wheter it be Caribbean-American,African-American, Asian or Latino),Aids, education, corruption,crime, immigration, drug-use/abuse, youth,affordable housing, etc.
I don't recall seeing Carl/ Clearence marching to protest what happened to Abner Louima nor Amadou Diallo.
In 1991 Maurice Gumbs went against the core membership of the Harriet Tubman Political Club and endorsed Carl( on the Liberal line) against Una Clarke, which led to the club's demise. Now Gumbs spends many lines in his "Footnotes" newspaper, outling the various ways that Carl has personally benifitted from his "political associations"( especially the ones with Norman, Connor and Fienberg). How ironic!
In 1996 when some of us black activists tried to run a Jamaican-born black man (Desmon Greene) to be the first minority Surrogate Judge of King's County, guess who lined up on the other side (FIENBERG)? But then Carl wasn't alone supporting Fienberg (if I recall/ a la Gatemouth/ lol), Carl managed that campaign.
Others like Towns, Perry, Roger, "Stitch" James, Vann,Robinson, Norman, Marietta Small, Weyman Carey, Mitch Alter,Owens, et al. were (as per usual) paradng their endorsements/ support.
My grandmother always said ;"show me who your friends are, and..................
If Tom Manton says "March" Chris Quinn marches. It is really simple.
And maybe she could decide by the 18th? Stupid for Newsday and stupid for you.
Chris is the speaker--yes Tom helped her get there, but he can't take it back.
Chris should not march.
words of wisdom, worth reading about Quinn and Parade
gaycitynews.com/gcn_510/letterfromtheeditor.html
10:36 -- yes, yes, yes. quinn is the usual suck-up pol.
all those ex-council staffers wandering around the parade route planning to boo madame speaker.
It would be really interesting if Quinn marches, brings along her partner, every single gay staffer she has, and they all wear rainbow t-shirts or something similarly appropriate.
That would turn the whole thing around very nicely and make the organizers look like the bigoted troglodytes they are.
Did David Dinkins get eggs thrown at him by bigots so Quinn could sell us out?
Say it: As I recall David Dinkins position was:
a) the Hibernians did not have a constitutional right to control the message of their own parade; and
b) gay Catholics did not have the constitutional right to hold a protest in front of St. Patrick's Cathedral.
Wrong and wrong.
Gatemouth, the point is Dinkins respected the boycot of the gay community of the march. There was never the issue about protests in front of St Pats and if there was it was not relevant. Stick to what this is about.
3:21: Agreed. The Hibernians have the free speech right to permit whoever they want to march (if you could force then into allowing a pink triangle, next thing you know someone might try to carry a Union Jack), and everyone else has the free speech right (and moral obligation) not to march while they include every type of Irish group but one.
The Hibernians should change their policy, and Quinn should declare, with great (and I expect, sincere)regret and sorry that she will not march until the policy changes.
If only the Hibernians and Lavendar/Green folks would discuss this over a few Guinesses, this problem could easily be resolved and everyone could go back to bashing them fookin Brits.